Christian and Missionary Alliance Churches of the Philippines Committee on Doctrine and Polity (CODAP) on the G12 movement:

The fol­low­ing state­ment was drafted by the Chris­t­ian and Mis­sion­ary Alliance Churches of the Philip­pines Com­mit­tee on Doc­trine and Polity (CODAP) on the G12 movement.

Obtained by permission.

The CAMACOP Com­mit­tee on Doc­trine and Polity met for the first time on Sep­tem­ber 20, 2011 under the aus­pices of the Divi­sion of Gen­eral and The­o­log­i­cal Edu­ca­tion (DGTE) and upon the express instruc­tion of the Exec­u­tive Bishop to dis­cuss a mat­ter that now presses itself against our churches, even as it has led to many dis­tress­ing con­tro­ver­sies and divi­sions in other evan­gel­i­cal denom­i­na­tions and churches in the Philippines.

We refer to the Colom­bian G12 Move­ment of Pas­tor Cesar Ramirez Castel­lanos.
Because of the urgency of the sit­u­a­tion, mem­bers of the Com­mit­tee reached a con­sen­sus to issue a state­ment that will deal with the broader issues occa­sioned by the onslaught of the G12 move­ment and rec­om­mend to the National Board of Trustees spe­cific courses of action to address the chal­lenges it raises to our bib­li­cal and denom­i­na­tional heritage.

Mem­bers agreed that the state­ment will not as of yet deal with the spe­cific con­texts in which it may have taken root in some of our very own Alliance churches but will instead address the imme­di­ate and urgent doc­tri­nal and hermeneu­ti­cal excesses of this new reli­gious move­ment that has already taken hold of so much of evan­gel­i­cal Chris­tian­ity from North to South.

First, we appre­ci­ate the good inten­tions of the move­ment: the stress on strong lead­er­ship and the devel­op­ment of good lead­ers for the movement’s small groups, the design for small groups as a place for nur­ture, the desire to reach out to many, the empha­sis on rig­or­ous train­ing for mem­bers of the move­ment , the recog­ni­tion of prayer as essen­tial to the life of believ­ers. We do not deny that this move­ment – even across dif­fer­ent coun­tries and con­texts – has seen tremen­dous numer­i­cal growth in churches that have adopted its methods.

No doubt, these are some of the big things that attract many pas­tors and church lead­ers to the movement.

Nev­er­the­less there are fea­tures of the G12 Move­ment that raise for us flags of alarm, par­tic­u­larly because they con­tra­dict the teach­ing of scrip­ture itself as well as under­mine the vital­ity of our denom­i­na­tional her­itage; numer­i­cal growth by itself is not a jus­ti­fi­ca­tion to upend bib­li­cal teach­ing, nor is it a true mea­sure of suc­cess and faith­ful­ness to God’s call. More often than not, numer­i­cal growth only masks under a veneer of appar­ent min­is­te­r­ial suc­cess the ter­ri­ble toll it has exacted on truth and relationships.

Our state­ment clus­ters the issues on the G12 Move­ment around two main themes, which we dis­cuss below:

On the Apos­tle­ship of the 12 and the Super-Apostleship of Pas­tor Cesar Ramirez Castellanos

The G12 Move­ment draws its name from the 12 apos­tles of Jesus Christ; But ignor­ing scrip­tural war­rants for church lead­er­ship patterns,Castellanos claims the time has come to end all other eccle­si­as­ti­cal modal­i­ties, whether Pres­by­ter­ian, con­gre­ga­tional, Epis­co­palian or Dioce­san, in favor of this lead­er­ship of the 12, with him as its Super-Apostle.

This new move­ment of the Spirit, accord­ing to him, requires noth­ing less than the abo­li­tion of estab­lished struc­tures of churches of what­ever Chris­t­ian her­itage or denom­i­na­tion. This, accord­ing to Castel­lanos, is the “new wine­skin” being revealed by the Holy Spirit to the present time.

In denom­i­na­tional terms, Castel­lanos rejects the lead­er­ship of pas­tors, elders, dea­cons and dea­conesses, and would have these yield to a ver­ti­cal struc­ture of lead­ers or apos­tles, who, using multi-level mar­ket­ing tech­niques, lord it over the peo­ple – the mem­bers of their groups of 12 people.

The move­ment assumes a New Age-like man­tle with its absolute insis­tence on the num­ber “12” as the rule of faith and life: as a leader, your group has to be of 12 mem­bers and noth­ing less, because that is what – accord­ing to Castel­lanos – the Scrip­ture demands.

More­over, the so-called apos­tles or group lead­ers exer­cise fright­en­ingly total­i­tar­ian pow­ers, as the struc­ture and sys­tem of the G12 Move­ment requires absolute obe­di­ence to lead­ers from followers.

Its very name opens the lead­er­ship struc­ture of the G12 Move­ment to abuse. It exhibits cul­tic ten­den­cies in this regard, as mem­bers of a group of 12 orga­nized around a leader are expected to sur­ren­der to the dic­tat of the leader, who exer­cises his or her lead­er­ship accord­ing to tried-and-tested mind manip­u­la­tion tech­niques. It can­not be gain­said that this is the secret to its suc­cess – the absolute obe­di­ence demanded of mem­bers to pro­duce results accord­ing to the “vision.”

Yet this fea­ture of the G12 lead­er­ship approach is unde­ni­ably a mark of a cul­tic move­ment and it must be exposed for what it is.

We reject this New Age numerol­ogy of the G12 as a dis­tor­tion of scrip­tural teach­ing as well as an utter rejec­tion of our denom­i­na­tional her­itage in the Chris­t­ian and Mis­sion­ary Alliance.

The deifi­ca­tion of the num­ber 12 in the G12 con­sti­tu­tion is arbi­trary and with­out scrip­tural warrant.

The dic­ta­to­r­ial impo­si­tion of the lead­er­ship in the G12 Move­ment is con­trary to the free­dom we have in Christ. It is true that we are called to com­mu­nal life as Chris­tians, but it does not mean that we are to lose our indi­vid­ual iden­ti­ties in group­think. Human dig­nity and the integrity of the indi­vid­ual eschew any view that places a per­son at the absolute con­trol of the community.

The gift of con­science does and will not allow that.

Coer­cion or any manip­u­la­tive tech­nique designed to solicit uncon­di­tional loy­alty of mem­bers is con­trary to Christ’s teach­ing on the free­dom of the believer.” It is for free­dom that Christ has set us free,” said the Apos­tle Paul. “Stand firm, then, and do not let your­selves be bur­dened again by a yoke of slav­ery.” (Gal. 5:1, NIV).

In the New Tes­ta­ment, we have the exam­ple of the Bere­ans, who, as scrip­tures says, “were of more noble char­ac­ter than the Thes­sa­lo­ni­ans, for they received the mes­sage with great eager­ness and exam­ined the Scrip­tures every day to see if what Paul said was true.” (Acts 17:11).

This scrip­tural pre­cept flies in the face of the G12 Movement’s claim that to the lead­ers must be reserved an unques­tion­ing obe­di­ence. We are told to con­tend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy peo­ple (Jude 1:3), as well as to see to it that we are not swayed by any unsound teach­ing (1 Tim. 6:2–4; 2 Tim. 1:12–14). It is not only the respon­si­bil­ity of lead­ers – but of every believer in Christ – to keep life and doc­trine together.

The Gospel is not sur­ren­der of the intel­lect to machine-like obei­sance; on the con­trary, the Good News of Jesus Christ con­stantly chal­lenges and engages Chris­tians to exer­cise their minds to the fullest with both humil­ity and dili­gence. Indeed, the Lord­ship of Jesus Christ requires no less than the full engage­ment of our whole being to His call to respon­si­bil­ity in all spheres of life.

Thus, we can­not speak of Chris­t­ian respon­si­bil­ity in all spheres of life where a church pro­motes unthink­ing obe­di­ence among its members.

It is not sur­pris­ing that the G12 Move­ment has proven to be divi­sive. Churches and denom­i­na­tions had been rent asun­der because of its mono­lithic struc­tural require­ment. As we write, we hear of many reports from other Chris­t­ian denom­i­na­tions and orga­ni­za­tions that had been wracked by ten­sion and con­flict as a result of the intro­duc­tion of G12 teach­ings and practices.

Castel­lanos does not allow his G12 Move­ment to be placed on top of an old foun­da­tion, which is ironic, con­sid­er­ing that he him­self admits he bor­rowed the essen­tials of his sys­tem from the Korean church started by David Yonggi Cho.

Nei­ther does he allow the use of other mate­ri­als along­side the G12 movement’s own mate­ri­als. And the slight­est mod­i­fi­ca­tions are con­sid­ered seri­ous devi­a­tions.
Need­less to say, this cor­ner­stone of the G12 Move­ment con­tra­dicts our con­sti­tu­tion and by-laws as a denom­i­na­tion. If adopted among Alliance churches, it will sup­plant the struc­ture of the Chris­t­ian and Mis­sion­ary Alliance Churches of the Philip­pines as a denomination.

But any move­ment which presents itself to the world as THE ONLY TRUE WAY of doing God’s work while those of oth­ers had been doomed to extinc­tion could only be igno­rant of God’s work­ing in and through cul­ture through­out his­tory. Indeed, the genius of Chris­tian­ity, as mis­si­ol­o­gists have shown, is pre­cisely its abil­ity to be trans­planted and trans­lated across cultures.

Such a move­ment could only be moti­vated by unbri­dled arro­gance when it asserts that faith tra­di­tions that refuse to abide by its way of doing things are cut off from the glory of God and from the work­ing of his Holy Spirit.

The God we wor­ship is Trini­tar­ian. One of the deep the­o­log­i­cal insights we can glean from the very nature of the God we wor­ship is that the Tri­une God – God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit — is our model of unity in diver­sity. Such is the col­or­ful tapes­try of the church – many mem­bers of diverse back­grounds and tra­di­tions, but one body – the mys­tery that has been kept hid­den for ages and gen­er­a­tions, but is now dis­closed to the saints (Col. 1:26).

The exclu­sivis­tic claims of the G12 Move­ment is at worst gnos­tic in char­ac­ter and at best an arro­gant pos­tur­ing that should have no place in any move­ment that con­sid­ers itself Christian.

In other words, the G12 Move­ment is an orga­ni­za­tion that holds itself out to the world as the only access to a “new anoint­ing” from God, with­out which there can be no free­dom from the bondage of sin.

But this is a mock­ery of what Christ did on the Cross for the sal­va­tion of humankind.
On the G12 movement’s Stress on Expe­ri­ence and Encounter

Other than the deifi­ca­tion of the num­ber 12, a foun­da­tional teach­ing of the G12 Move­ment is its obses­sion with the so-called gen­er­a­tional curses, the the­ory being that all the mis­for­tunes and ills of a person’s life spring from some curse or other that had been passed on to him or her from his or her ances­tors. The G12 Move­ment holds that these gen­er­a­tional curses are inflicted even on believ­ers, so that as a result, peo­ple suf­fer poverty or remain in the grip of sin.

And the high­light of its high-intensity and highly-secretive Encounter with God Retreats (EGR) is the renun­ci­a­tion of these curses in often bizarre rit­u­als that seemed to have been drawn straight from New Age prac­tices rather than from Scrip­ture itself. These prac­tices include astral pro­jec­tion, visu­al­iza­tion, being “slain in the Spirit” and other so-called man­i­fes­ta­tions of a power encounter with the Holy Spirit.

A Chris­t­ian who has not been to an EGR for this pur­pose must expe­ri­ence one, because true con­ver­sion only takes place there. Prior to the spir­i­tual encounter a believer meets at an EGR, all of his or her Chris­t­ian expe­ri­ences do not count in the equation.

At the core of this empha­sis on renun­ci­a­tions is a doc­trine of spir­i­tual war­fare which teaches that prior to a believer’s detailed list­ing and renun­ci­a­tion of all of his or her known sins, sal­va­tion is never com­plete for him or her and Satan can still smug­gle his min­ions into his or her life; there is no full for­give­ness of sins from God, there is no full sal­va­tion, which comes only, along with inner heal­ing, upon repen­tance, the renun­ci­a­tion of curses, in rit­u­als exe­cuted at an EGR.

It is also here where adher­ents are asked to throw away any and all ves­tiges of their for­mer lives as mem­bers of churches with their own denom­i­na­tional tra­di­tions and prac­tices. It is here where they are intro­duced to new ways of doing liturgy and worship.

Most bizarre of all of these spir­i­tual exer­cises is that even God him­self, because He can be a source of trauma, must be forgiven!

The G12 Move­ment adds another layer to the fin­ished work of Christ on the Cross and teaches that with­out these renun­ci­a­tions, cou­pled with the “new anoint­ing” through its Encounter of God Retreats, they can­not enjoy new life, indeed they can­not par­take of the Super­nat­ural DNA of Jesus Christ himself.

The “new anoint­ing” is cru­cial to pros­per­ity promised to every adher­ent of the G12 Move­ment – a fea­ture com­mon to all move­ments iden­ti­fied with the unbib­li­cal teach­ings of the “Word of Faith Move­ment”, of which Castel­lanos is part.

It appears that the G12 Move­ment is geared towards a sophis­ti­cated orga­ni­za­tion requir­ing a cer­tain level of cul­tural and eco­nomic cap­i­tal. It is aimed at a par­tic­u­lar lifestyle where the Movement’s inner dynamic finds its true rhythm. This inner dynamic works well with the movement’s vision of suc­cess, all too often mea­sured in terms of the excess of mate­r­ial goods, inas­much as its “new anoint­ing” is a nec­es­sary con­di­tion for a Christian’s mate­r­ial prosperity.

But these beliefs per­pet­u­ated by the move­ment are a seri­ous dis­tor­tion of the his­toric and bib­li­cal doc­trine of the Redeem­ing work of Jesus Christ; these are also seri­ous dis­tor­tions of the doc­trines of jus­ti­fi­ca­tion and sanc­ti­fi­ca­tion, which are the doc­tri­nal hall­marks of the Ref­or­ma­tion as well as of the Chris­t­ian and Mis­sion­ary Alliance.
What the G12 Move­ment teaches is another gospel – a teach­ing that St. Paul called anath­ema in his let­ter to the Gala­tians. This is a false gospel that rejects the redeem­ing work of Christ (Gal. 1:1–9).

Thus, it is urgent that a warn­ing be issued to all our churches in the Philip­pines about the teach­ings of the G12 movement.

Signed: Novem­ber 23, 2011

Mem­bers:

The Rev. Dr. Bishop Reniel Joel Nebab, D.Min (Asbury), incum­bent CAMACOP Pres­i­dent and Exec­u­tive Bishop

The Rev. Dr. Rodrigo D. Tano, PhD (Bay­lor), Bishop and for­mer CAMACOP President

The Rev. Dr. Jose Dalino, PhD (PCU), Bishop and for­mer CAMACOP President

The Rev. Dr. Averell U. Aragon, Th.D (Hon). NEM-Division of Gen­eral and The­o­log­i­cal Education

The Rev. Dr. Jonathan Exiomo, Th.D.(ABGST),President, Alliance Grad­u­ate School

The Rev. Dr. Isa­ias Catorce, D.Min (Asbury) Direc­tor for Asia, Ambas­sadors for Christ

The Rev. Dr. Geryll Nil­los, D.Ed. (AGST),Former NEM-Division of Gen­eral and The­o­log­i­cal Education

Atty. Romel Regal­ado Bagares, LLB (UP), MA (VU-University Ams­ter­dam, cum laude), Trustee, Alliance Grad­u­ate School

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24 comments to this article

  1. Bormeo "Ming" G. Modanza

    on July 25, 2012 at 1:09 am - Reply

    Your state­ment on the G12 Move­ment is well artic­u­lated even as our church is suf­fer­ing from the divide result­ing from the cul­tic doc­trine espoused by some mem­bers sim­i­lar to G12 move­ment. They are now out of the church premises fac­ing qual­i­fied thief and estafa cases in court.

    It is a timely state­ment and a warn­ing that there is a poss­ble trap along way­laid secret path that seems to appear heav­enly — expressed in loud hal­lelu­jahs and amens in uncon­trolled emo­tions to an over­whelm­ing extent.

    Watch and pray that we may not wan­der from sphere of God’s grace in Jesus Christ.

    Thank you.

  2. Renato C. Lagangan

    on September 3, 2012 at 7:51 am - Reply

    it is with deep pain that I read this arti­cle. Our church has been in the G12 sys­tem for over three years already. I have exam­ined the mate­ri­als and found no seri­ous errors in the G12 teach­ing. In those three years, I saw more peo­ple being saved than my more than 20 years of being a Chris­t­ian. I saw myself and more peo­ple get seri­ous with devo­tion and prayer, as well as in evan­ge­lism and dis­ci­ple­ship. If I would judge G12 by its fruits, I would def­i­nitely say that it is from God. Noth­ing of those sorts that you say about los­ing your denom­i­na­tion (if there is indeed any spir­i­tual value to it)or about lord­ing it over us, or about uncon­trolled emo­tions. God would judge us in accor­dance with what He has given us. An encounter with God is the only way to true con­ver­sion. G12 never said that the Encounter God Retreat is the only way to true con­ver­sion. G12 peo­ple are not the the­olo­gian kind of peo­ple. they are more con­cerned with obey­ing God with the lit­tle under­stand­ing that they get from the Holy Spirit. We for­give men when they get out of con­text some­times. but they are indeed led by the Holy Spirit. I pray that Chris­tians would inves­ti­gate more dili­gently and not just rely on hearsay and bias before con­demn­ing the work of a brother by brand­ing it as a mark of a cul­tic move­ment. God bless you guys. Let us all just preach the word to the lost.

    • admin

      on November 24, 2012 at 11:13 am - Reply

      Sal­va­tion by G12?

    • Kris Katipunan

      on February 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm - Reply

      you should read what the G12 vision has done to many latin amer­i­can based evan­gel­i­cal churches. as for this abom­i­na­tion and heresy that is G12, have you heard bishop oriel speak? that man is from the devil. who­ever speaks harsh against other pen­te­costal and protes­tant church lead­ers like that, with­out love, is surely from some­where else. sal­va­tion is from Jesus, not from your sys­tem. read the Word and lis­ten to the Holy Spirit as they are to be read, not as to how your G12 cult cell leader is ask­ing. the Lord’s judge­ment will be on His churches if they keep up this abomination.

  3. Sandra

    on November 6, 2012 at 5:35 pm - Reply

    With­out even hint­ing at cinc­trustong a law, I would like to express agree­ment with Ian’s con­vic­tion that the ideal, God’s best for us, but no means a law, is that Body mem­bers meet­ing together live in as close prox­im­ity as pos­si­ble for the rea­sons Ian indi­cated. My wife Judy and I have been in fel­low­ship with some pre­cious brethren in Christ Jesus for eleven years, meet­ing in the simple/house man­ner. These sis­ters and broth­ers are inex­press­ibly dear to us, yet our homes stretch over an area about thirty miles diam­e­ter; there­fore, the cost and time required for travel sharply limit fre­quency and extent of life inter­ac­tion, and there­fore limit love expressed in deed and truth, limit mutual dis­cern­ment, encour­age­ment, admon­ish­ment, cor­rec­tion, train­ing in right­eous­ness, and joint out­ward min­istry involve­ment. If they could look more deeply into my daily life, I’m con­fi­dent our Lord would use them to a greater extent, as iron sharp­ens iron, to con­fess sins and repent, to stim­u­late me to love and good deeds, and to stim­u­late my growth in the grace and knowl­edge of our Lord and Sav­ior Jesus Christ, all to the glory of God and my own peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

  4. Leo Carlo Panlilio

    on November 11, 2012 at 2:07 pm - Reply

    FYI, this state­ments have been taken down from the web­site of CAMACOP. These are just hear-says, and were never proven.

    • Pastor Toto Gustilo

      on November 11, 2012 at 7:50 pm - Reply

      Pas­tor I will be glad to respond to this state­ment in an aca­d­e­mic way…since they posted an aca­d­e­mic challenge…upon ini­tial read­ing of the “state­ment” I would imme­di­ately assess that most of what they say doesn’t have solid anec­do­tal evidence…most of their “alle­ga­tions” are base­less, irrel­e­vant and immaterial…also it’s full of sweep­ing generalization…just a glimpse of the said state­ment would make me want to say that the guys who drafted it doesn’t really have the slight­est idea about the G12 movement…but I plan on respond­ing later (when I find time) and make a point by point response to the actual statement…I have friends kasi in CAMACOP…so as to give a rea­son­able argu­ment for the pur­pose of clar­i­fi­ca­tion and edu­ca­tion about the G12 movement…

  5. DMNHS IV-LOJ BATCH 2000

    on November 11, 2012 at 2:39 pm - Reply

    try it first before you judge...kalokohan....lumago, nabago at naitama ang buhay ng maram­ing mga tao dito sa amin dahil sa g12 na bin­abatikos nyo...

    • Sorerbac Cala Nara

      on November 19, 2012 at 7:31 pm - Reply

      the sys­tem of G12 broke many Catholics into ques­tion. most of the mem­bers that were gath­ered by the sys­tem were nom­i­nal Catholics. It is sur­pris­ing that you intend to defend G12 with­out real­iz­ing that it dis­re­spects the faith of the Catholic Fold. accord­ing to this source:

      G12 is deceiv­ing, the sys­tem cut a por­tion of Catholics and left the faith thus becom­ing mem­bers of the churches fol­low­ing the sys­tem. I have friends who became mem­bers of the cell groups orga­nized by those churches, The fact is, they never make the sign of the cross any­more, never pray using the rosary, never attend the mass, never hon­our the saints, never hon­our Mama Mary and never believed already in the doc­trines and prac­tices of the Catholic Church, is that not a sign that they left already the denom­i­na­tion of which they were baptized ?”

      http://apocalypsisjesuchristi.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/refuting-g12-system-defined-by-good-harvest-ministrypart-i/

      while it claims that: ” It is impor­tant to know that G12 is not a denom­i­na­tion. For this rea­son it has never express the desire of any one to leave their denom­i­na­tion. Instead, G12 sup­ports denom­i­na­tions, other min­istries and Outreaches.”

    • Mark Castle

      on April 3, 2013 at 6:47 am - Reply

      At the end of the day, we should ask our­selves, is it really the G12 sys­tem who have changed the lives of these peo­ple, or the God work­ing in them thru the Holy Spirit. Every­thing should go back to the Source, who is God Him­self, and His Word, and noth­ing else....Blessings in Christ

  6. Kriselda

    on November 11, 2012 at 3:52 pm - Reply

    How can G12 Vision be both­er­ing you and other churches when it’s only goal is to win souls and make dis­ci­ples? What we do is sooooo dif­fer­ent of what you state above.There’s no rit­u­als or any weird activ­ity that we’re doing at the Encounter. All the neg­a­tive com­men­tary are I think unnec­es­sary. G12 is not a cult. There is noth­ing wrong with souls being res­cued by Jesus; there’s noth­ing wrong in lives being trans­formed. There’s noth­ing wrong in rais­ing lead­ers that will serve Jesus and set an exam­ple to those who doesn’t believe. Actu­ally, if we will just focus on win­ning souls and lov­ing every­one, then it’s done! Why many hate G12? because they dont like to work for God. They’d rather be at home watch­ing tv or maybe at the church try­ing to com­pro­mise almost every­one. [even­though they’re wrong]

  7. Kriselda Alvarez Merza

    on November 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm - Reply

    How can G12 Vision be both­er­ing you and other churches when it’s only goal is to win souls and make dis­ci­ples? What we do is sooooo dif­fer­ent of what you state above.There’s no rit­u­als or any weird activ­ity that we’re doing at the Encounter. All the neg­a­tive com­men­tary are I think unnec­es­sary. G12 is not a cult. There is noth­ing wrong with souls being res­cued by Jesus; there’s noth­ing wrong in lives being trans­formed. There’s noth­ing wrong in rais­ing lead­ers that will serve Jesus and set an exam­ple to those who doesn’t believe. Actu­ally, if we will just focus on win­ning souls and lov­ing every­one, then it’s done! Why many hate G12? because they don’t like to work for God. They’d rather be at home watch­ing tv or maybe at the church try­ing to com­pro­mise almost every­one. [even­though they’re wrong].

  8. Gaddy Lorica Santonia

    on November 12, 2012 at 2:41 am - Reply

    TO THE SIGNATORIES ABOVE:

    I HAVE some issues about your stand on G12 vision.

    (1) Your report was base­less because you failed to “ver­ify” by your­selves the teach­ings of the G12 vision...as you’ve men­tioned in page 2 of your report that says “as we write, we hear reports from many Chris­t­ian denom­i­na­tion...” you need to men­tion the names of these chris­t­ian denom­i­na­tions and orga­ni­za­tions for authen­tic­ity and ver­i­fi­ca­tion.
    (2) You’ve men­tioned that the struc­ture of the G12 lead­er­ship exhib­ited cul­tic ten­den­cies (page 2 upper sec­tion). In this case, you are, there­fore, sug­gest­ing that Jesus method of select­ing, form­ing and send­ing his 12 dis­ci­ples was a “cul­tic prac­tice.“
    (3) You fear of the so-called “TENDENCY” of the G12 move­ment to be cul­tic. There­fore, your accu­sa­tions are not valid because it is only based on ten­den­cies.
    (4) G12 vision do not reject the redeem­ing work of Christ (as you’ve men­tion in page 4 lower part). as in fact, the cross of jesus is one of the major teach­ings of the vision. in this case, I have noticed that you do not have a “deep” under­stand­ing about the G12 vision; it’s teach­ings and prac­tices.
    (5) Finally, I would like to ask you a very per­sonal questions:

    a. What really is the moti­va­tion of the above let­ter? Is it really a con­cern for the church in Philip­pine or an envi­ous heart.
    b. Why you failed to specif­i­cally name names the sources of your in for­ma­tions.
    c. Why you did not per­son­ally inves­ti­gate, inter­ro­gate or ask a stand paper both the accuser and the accused? why you hastily release this paper with­out proper pro­to­col.
    d. there­fore, I con­clude that the issues pre­sented above, unless proven with evi­dences, remains “HERESY AND plain ACCUSATION” only.

    thank you!

    • Jocelyn Fayangcao

      on November 12, 2012 at 3:42 am - Reply

      hahaha.. Why do we need to explain, while in fact we are already being judged?.. what is the use of explain­ing if they had a closed mind?..it is useless...

    • EyanyeoJinda Cabillan Ecijan

      on November 12, 2012 at 3:59 am - Reply

      Joce­lyn Fayang­cao ate, bin­abasa mo rin pala.. hehehe...

  9. Rusty Nebres

    on November 12, 2012 at 8:28 am - Reply

    If this thing comes from God it will stand what­ever deroga­tory state­ment other peo­ple may say about it.

    • Kris Katipunan

      on February 19, 2013 at 6:56 pm - Reply

      right. and INC is from the Lord. so are mor­mons, and jehova’s wit­nesses. i’m not even going to com­ment on catholi­cism, dif­fer­ent topic. INC is very suc­cess­ful at recruit­ment, so are mor­mons. are they from the Lord? please answer this. and haven’t you heard about gnos­ti­cism? or legal­ism? which is what the apos­tle paul had to con­tend with. even in the early his­tory of the church, in the time of Acts, there was heresy already. G12 may or may not be a cult, but it is a heresy.

  10. Jireh Santonia

    on November 12, 2012 at 3:08 pm - Reply

    In point­ing an argu­ment you must see first the prod­uct of its teach­ing, G12 is just a sys­tem, it is the val­ues of the vision that makes us true believ­ers. Lives are change dur­ing the Encoun­ters you can­not ques­tion that. Accu­sa­tion with­out proof is base­less please check you ref­er­ences if you have any. The church is mobi­lized to do one thing win and make dis­ci­ples as stated from the bible, the sole foun­da­tion of the G12 sys­tem is from the bible and you can­not ques­tion the integrity of Gods truth. the last com­mand is our first priority.

    The basic sys­tem­atic inquiry of prov­ing some­thing will always lay on the test;(test every spirit in all kinds of occa­sion..) I do believe that true test of doc­tri­nal faith is not in the knowl­edge gained but by the approval of the holy spirit. My heart will tell and attest this is Gods call for us. Win souls and makes disciples!

  11. myrna sabroso

    on November 16, 2012 at 1:10 am - Reply

    mga doc­tor pa naman kayo.magwin soul and make dis­ci­ple nalang kayo .huwag nalang kay­ong manira sa
    .g12.kasi hinde nyo alam’ang masasabi ko sa inyo mga doc­tor ng cama­cop try g12 you will exper­cience geni­une transformation.kong kayang baguhin ni God ang krim­i­nal kayo pa kaya.

  12. Rolly Pelinggon

    on November 20, 2012 at 12:03 am - Reply

    While the CAMACOP as a denom­i­na­tion has to update and upgrade, it should not be through the G12 way. The G12 sys­tem, once it has crept into the local church, it viciously takes over its sys­tem, then it divides the church as it estab­lishes its own auto­cratic sys­tem. What is more fright­en­ing with the G12 is that once it has gained an upper hand in the church’s lead­er­ship, its pro­po­nents would never allow fur­ther dia­logue nor scrutiny on the sound­ness of the G12 dis­ci­ple­ship teach­ings which, at closer exam­i­na­tion, nakedly dis­re­gard sound exeget­i­cal principles.

    It is noth­ing but a fal­la­cious claim that Jesus intended to con­quer the world through the GOVERNMENT of 12, which Paul him­self never affirmed nor given an iota of hint that it is so in his epis­tles. The G12 is so fal­la­ciously manip­u­la­tive, that those who are not ade­quately trained in logic and proper exe­ge­sis would be eas­ily deceived. I thor­oughly reviewed the G12 man­ual when it caused the split of our church and I found out that the vicious­ness of the G12 is immensely fright­en­ing because it is a strat­egy based pri­mar­ily on the T-Groups sen­si­tiv­ity train­ing pro­gram devel­oped by J.L. Moreno which was later on improved by Kurt Lewin. Obvi­ously, the G12 sys­tem has all the per­fec­tions of the Ser­pen­tine guile that deceived Eve into believ­ing that “it is good for food, and that it was pleas­ant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise”. Once adopted by the church, it’s clev­erly con­cealed “venom” will deaden the abil­ity of the church lead­ers to dis­tin­guish truth from fal­lac­ies. It is like Satan is suc­ceed­ing in his agenda of turn­ing the church into a uni­ver­sal cul­tic move­ment. Very fright­en­ing indeed.

  13. Jet

    on November 28, 2012 at 8:00 pm - Reply

    Wow! I didn’t know G12 is bad until i read this. But i felt in my Spirit na may some­thing when i heard about G12.

    Thank you for shar­ing this valu­able information.

    Indeed we can­not add another gospel and another foun­da­tion to what was laid and that is Jesus :)

    To G12 prac­ti­tion­ers, if you have changed life because of G12, that is good.. but i pray that you will open your minds & hearts to this.

  14. Bon Jason Magallanes

    on December 5, 2012 at 3:20 pm - Reply

    Luke 9:49–50 “And John answered and said, Mas­ter, we saw one cast­ing out dev­ils in thy name; and we for­bad him, because he fol­loweth not with us. And Jesus said unto him, For­bid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.”

    For­give them Father for they know not what they are doing..

    We are to help one another and not to look on the speck on our brother’s eye..We share the same GOD and saved by the same Blood.. I pray bless­ings and love upon you.. God­b­less SHALOM in the name of JESUS

  15. Kris Joy Dalanon

    on December 13, 2012 at 3:36 am - Reply

    Thank you Cama­cop for writ­ing this. You have been very firm in guid­ing your churches to the right and Bib­li­cal path.

    We have failed to do this in our church. This has caused chaos. But more than that, it has placed the Word in the “feel­ings” and “under­stand­ing” of peo­ple. It has twisted grounded the­ol­ogy and exe­ge­sis. I remem­ber John Piper’s mes­sage. He men­tioned that the puri­tan preach­ers made cer­tain that they do not men­tion any of their per­sonal expe­ri­ences in their ser­mons. They solely preach what the Word says.

    Christ is enough! His sal­va­tion is enough! This has been proven for many years — the steady growth of Chris­tian­ism grounded on God’s truth — even with many oppo­si­tions, diver­sions and new meth­ods in doing min­istry that are intro­duced within the churches!

    May God con­tinue to guard our hearts and minds!

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